How to handle bureaucracy in the Church

Our Guest

Oyebola Ayodele Adesanya is a member of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, and he currently serves as the Area Youth President of Chapel of Liberty Area, Lagos Province 12. He has a B.Sc in Civil engineering from the University of Lagos and he’s currently furthering his studies in University of Lagos, with M.Sc in view. He also ventures in the real estate industry as a realtor and a potential developer. Oyebola is very passionate about the things of the kingdom, and a devout follower of the Lord Jesus Christ. He is currently single and trusting the Lord for a future partner soon enough.

 

The Interview

Teniola Temitayo :My name is Teniola and I am from Peculiar Ministers and we thank you for honouring our invite 😊

Mr Oyebola: You welcome 🙂

Teniola Temitayo : We will be talking about “How to Handle Bureaucracy in Church”

Mr Oyebola: Alright then…

Teniola Temitayo : Bureaucracy can be said to be a very important aspect of every organization, in your own word, what do you understand by the word Bureaucracy?

Mr Oyebola: All right in simple terms, bureaucracy can be defined as set down rules/regulations or procedures that govern an organisation or a routine call put in place to assist in the management of an organisation.

Teniola Temitayo : Alright, thank You Sir…Can we say Bureaucracy is only associated with organizations like big companies, business organization and government operations not a necessity for churches?

Mr Oyebola: No, I will not go with that line of thought. In the sense that, just as we defined earlier that bureaucracy are actually set down rules in order to assist in the management of an organisation. The church can be categorised as an organisation in the sense that it has far grown beyond what it used to be. Hence, there is a need for a proper management of the church system.

Act 6 vs 1-4 …This is a scriptural reference of trying to have things divided amongst themselves, as a result of the complexity in the church back then. So it has far grown beyond what it used to be right now. Also, bureaucracy can be referred to as red tapes (set down rules) or activities to carry out, and this actually needs to be done through the use of division of labour, for proper and effective management. Which is needed in the church, most especially now

Teniola Temitayo : Hmmm…Thank you for that insight. Is there a difference between Bureaucracy and Doctrines?

Mr Oyebola: I will say there is a difference between bureaucracy and doctrines. Bureaucracy is actually meant to help out in the administrative sector of an organization while doctrines could be the message that an organisation is trying to pass across. Doctrines are essentially the core aspect of an organisation. That’s my view though.

Teniola Temitayo : What’s your definition of Doctrines?

Mr Oyebola: Like I mentioned above, doctrines are practically messages. Better put, doctrines can be described as a series of teachings, systematically arranged in order to point at something. Doctrines are actually powerful, in the sense that they have the capability to change the configuration of a fellow or thought pattern of a fellow. Take for example, you want to become a medical doctor. You go to the university so as to be taught the etiquette and techniques towards knowing what it entails to be a doctor. You then stay in school for 6 years, learning the profession of being a doctor. What was actually being imputed in you are known as Doctrines. Then after 6 years, you are being referred to as a doctor. This was made possible as a result of teachings upon teachings, which now cultures you to have the attitude and nature of a doctor. That was why I said, doctrines have the capacity to nurture and give you a different kind of lifestyle.

Titus 2:7 “In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity”.

Teniola Temitayo: Well Understood. How do you determine the right person for a position differentiating hypocrisy from good service?

Mr Oyebola: Well. Hypocrisy is actually a very difficult one to find out if you’re not familiar with them. Because truly we are not Jesus Christ, we are striving to be like him. Jesus Christ was able to tell that the Pharisees were hypocrites because He is Lord and the Holy Spirit revealed it to Him. Besides, hypocrisy can also be well noticed as a result of some level of familiarity with the person. Now except the Lord Jesus Christ, gives someone the gift of discerning, then it can’t be supernaturally detected. We should always yield to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

Looking at the verse I gave you above, in the book of Acts 6:3. The senior apostles, requested for men who had honest report. Now it is not possible for you to know if someone has an honest report, except there’s been some level of familiarity, or more than two witnesses attest to the fact that they have honest report. But from the scripture above, I would feel that they were able to get men of honest report, because such men has been among them, and they could testify of their good deeds because reading further, the fellow men they chose were men that are ready in the brotherhood: Philip being among them.

Secondly, the other criteria that the senior apostles required for was that, they were to be filled with the Holy Ghost. Now this is where the aspect of being supernatural in your choice for a fellow who could fit into a particular job description.

Teniola Temitayo : This is great.

Teniola Temitayo : Let’s look at the leadership aspect. In a situation whereby you as the leader of the church makes a set of rules so as to regulate the activities  and then you find yourself in a tight corner whereby you have to break the rules, what will you do?

Mr Oyebola: Okay… You see, because of the inflexibility involved in bureaucracy, bureaucratic organisations find it difficult sometimes to respond to unique situation that need utmost attention. As good and efficient as rules can be if we abide by them, it could restrict some decision that need swift attention. So I feel some little exceptions could be made, some regulated authority needs to be given to the leaders in Churches to make amends to some things when appropriate. Even in the Faith, we’re not being bounded by the law, because the Lord Jesus Christ has come to make us free from the law. I mean Scripture says..Galatians 5:13 “For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another”. To some extent we have liberty to make some amends to some things that needs to. Rather, if I, being the leader, see the need to make a decision contrary to a set down regulation, I would rather make an amend to the rules if I have the authority to as the leader

Teniola Temitayo : I love this 👌👌

Teniola Temitayo : There is this ideology which is, there is a reward attached to working for God, which is a fact that can’t be overemphasized but in the case of an instrumentalist in the church.. Are Instrumentalist meant to be paid or rather be rewarded by God himself?

Mr Oyebola: (Smiles) We looking at the church right now, the church is actually short of instrumentalist and to an extent, I will actually blame that on the authorities of the church not putting in place it scheme to assure the continuity of skilled persons in this aspect. So since this a fault from the church, and then they have to make up by inviting external people to render their service. There’s actually nothing wrong, because some of them earn a living by doing this.

Teniola Temitayo : Hmmm okay… So do you think instrumentalist are meant to be paid, and they are meant to always rely on that?

Mr Oyebola: I’m not saying instrumentalist are always meant to be paid. I’m saying an external instrumentalist should be paid for the service rendered. As long as he’s is not a worker in the household of God. But being a worker in the household of God, and you play the instrument, I feel it is so wrong for them to be paid.

Teniola Temitayo : Thanks for clarity.

Teniola Temitayo : How do you handle politics in the church as its a rampant issue in the church presently?

Mr Oyebola: This is actually very wrong, politics should not be in the church. Politics is a worldly tradition. To me, the best way to handle politics in the church is be be very mindful of people who get to the top. It all pans down to the set of leaders we have in churches today. Having people who are filled with the Holy ghost, who don’t hold this world at a high esteem ruling us in the church would curb politics to an extent. But wherever you find yourself, in the hierarchy of the church administration, it is best to do whatever you’re given to do as unto the Lord and let God do the rest. It will take the Lord to purge His church from politics.

Teniola Temitayo : Hmmmm…. Insightful.

Teniola Temitayo : Finally, how do you handle bureaucracy in churches today with Biblical examples to guide us through?

Mr Oyebola: To make things easy, it’s all flows down from the top. If something is wrong with the head, the whole body and system is messed up. In essence, bureaucracy would be made more easier in the church when we have people at the top who fear the Lord  and are of sound knowledge of the word of God. Not just living by the letters but have fellowship with the spirit behind the word. These are people who will be able to put things just as the Lord would want them to. And I will still stick to the criteria in Acts 6:1 – 3. Biblical references could be found in 1 Timothy 3. This scriptural references lays down the criteria that must be met by those who will rule us in the church.

Teniola Temitayo : Wow!!! We have come to the end of this wonderful interview… honestly I don’t want it to end… But it just have to and I have learnt a whole lot. And you have really dealt with each questions carefully with God’s Wisdom. I really appreciate your insight. Thank you very much Mr Oyebola.

On behalf of Peculiar Ministers we say thank you wholeheartedly and more Anointing, we pray….Love from we all at Peculiar Ministers..😊😊😊

Mr Oyebola: 😊Thanks for having me, and it was nice chit chatting with you.

2 thoughts on “How to handle bureaucracy in the Church

  1. Nice interview!

    But I would have liked to know the interviewee’s thought on paying instrumentalist in church, who don’t have any work but live or fend only by playing instruments.

    Would it be wrong to pay them as a church? Cos I believe the church should be one who pushes the agenda of change and stability.
    If you want good things, then training and a bit compensation wouldn’t do any wrong.

    For me, I feel we need correct that, cos even the same Bible said a man’s talent maketh way for him.

    Then if the church can’t see a talent and encourage monetary wise too, then I see no reasons why there should be a complain that they leave the church and go outside. Cos I hear that a lot, and the question I always ask is ‘what did you do?’

    Above all! Great interview session. But I would have loved to know his perspective of why you shouldn’t pay or support financially an instrumentalist within the church.
    Cos I have been in a church where they invite instrumentalist outside the church and pay them, sometimes this same people come from another church to play in your church.

    If you can pay them, then what’s stopping you from paying those within your sect. Isn’t that quite hypocritical? This is just a question.

  2. I wouldn’t want to go with the thought of making it a regular thing to pay instrumentalist who are workers in church.
    From scriptures, we are made to understand that instruments are being used to praise God.
    Psalm 150: 3-5.
    As Christians, we should understand that humanity was created to bring God praise, we were created to praise God at his own pleasure, it’s very wrong to be paid to bring down the glory of God. So as fellow workers in the vineyard of God, such individuals or people who play instruments should have the understanding that it is wrong to receive money to praise God – which is a spiritual affair.
    The Bible make us to understand that anything we do, should be done as unto the Lord, having a mind that he is the one who will reward us.
    Colossians 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
    3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

    Now the way God will deal with a believer, is different from the way God deals with an unbeliever, because there are two levels of understanding.
    so if someone external is invited to play in the church, and he’s been paid for a service rendered, the reaction of God towards such a fellow will be different from that who has committed himself to serving God in his house. It shouldn’t be seen as an hypocritical behaviour.
    I’ve seen instrumentalist, who after a while, stopped collecting money from the church, when been invited to play.
    This was how we got our instrumentalist in our church. That was personal conviction from God.
    And if peradventure the church wants to give something to the instrumentalist, it shouldn’t be seen as a pay, rather a stipend which is permitted under church welfare. And this shouldn’t be fixed, it should be as they dim it fit. But when you consider it a pay, then you’re telling God you deserve the money because you rendered a service to praise God.
    So this is my stand on the question.

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